"...Yeah. The folks that helped me, they were big on the idea that there's no 'good people' or 'bad people', that you can't just sort people neatly. I had...have...feelings about that, because it sure is convenient for me personally to think that way, isn't it? But it's also not my idea."

There's a long pause.

Then: "...Ylva said something different. That she thinks I'm a good person who did bad things. Dunno how to handle that either, but. God, no, that's a digression, we're talkin' the big man."